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BeerSlinger:

--- Quote from: Takeshi Miya on March 29, 2006, 09:31:30 pm ---
--- Quote from: BeerSlinger on March 29, 2006, 08:48:58 pm ---My basic problem with Redhat has been simple......core 4 installs fine, but when I try to install software on it, everything goes south.......with core 5 it continually crashs in setup......it doesn't matter if its a clean install or update, it doesn't matter.......the only thing I haven't done is to track down either the device or software option that is crashing.....that could be done by unattaching everything or tracking install, one option at a time......to me, just trying to get up and running.....it wasn't practical.....frankly, the whole reason for opening this up is to find what works and then just go there.....

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I'm beginning to think you have hardware problems such as faulty ram or hard disk.
Have you checked your ram against memtest?

Another thing, try to focus with one distro and one problem at a time.
If something doesn't works at first it can be frustrating, but usually a configuration setting solves it, or a new kernel, or a new driver.


For example, I couldn't get linux working no matter how hard I tried on this machine (altrough I had experience in other machines).
Well, it was because the chipset was really supported on kernel 2.6.11 and up. And at that time all the distros (except Gentoo) had 2.6.11 kernels or lower, so I couldn't even boot.
But then the distros started to come with new kernels, and I tried Ubuntu 5.10, which worked for the first time well.
I had to put some bootup parameters thanks to some chipset idiosincracies, but fortunately Ubuntu forums and Google exists :D

And then, the last problem was I couldn't get past 1024x768 in this monitor, no matter what option I would choose.
Then, after downloading and installing the ATI propietary driver, everything worked nicely. :)


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You could be right.......it might be a hardware problem......

I mentioned that because I noticed my keyboard was doing some funky things and I switched it during a Redhat install.......before I did it was freezing at every turn.......after the media check, pre-install, just after language selection......it was crazy.......but I switched it and it started working fine until the software freeze......It actually crashed two ways, first was when I tried to install everything, the setup would error whenever the Turkish language support was enabled.......I know, I know, why do you need that, well I don't, I just like seeing the foreign languages show up correctly on the internet.......next was a package that I can't remember but it was right after the DNS is installed on a typical setup determined by Redhat.....I finally did get it to set up after I unselected everything but that just left me a shell...

So, I really didn't want to troubleshoot the problem because I wanted to get things up and running....

No, I hadn't done a memory test.....is there one that your referring to specifically?

I did get Ubuntu to install correctly, and I see why it is exceptionally good for those that haven't experienced Linux.  Its nice and I think I’m going to try to push it for a few days to see what I can do, but I don't think I’m going to be happy with it because I don't see any of the server setup for Apache........but please, for god sakes, no one bite my head off......I only looked at it for 3 minites, I haven't had a chance to run everything down so I don't know what it can do and what it can't.....

But I can understand the glowing review it got from many users and I realize why some would be really attracted to it…..

BeerSlinger:

--- Quote from: Michael on March 29, 2006, 10:15:14 pm ---Regarding ubuntu, what I also like is the availability of different web-forums (different languages) :). If I do not find what I search in the english forum, then I search in the italian, french, German and/or Portuguese one. Normally, I find quite fast an aswer to my query. Naturally, I avoid to cross-post the same question in each web forum :).

Best wishes,
Michael


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I can understand that but wouldn't that get a little messy if the writer starts using slang?.......I can see how some information could be renderied but it cold get ugly....

BeerSlinger:

--- Quote from: Game_Ender on March 29, 2006, 10:05:48 pm ---You should also learn to make good use of the resources on the internet the Ubuntu wiki is awesome and full of great answers to almost anything you would want to do with Ubuntu.  Heck, with almost no linux experience I manged to compile and install comedi along with its kernel modules in Ubuntu.  Something that Redhat makes hard with there altered kernel source.

Here is something I am learning the more I use open source: Searching Mailing Lists, Forums, the Web, Wiki's and Manuals will almost always solve your problem and it will be quicker than a forum post.  Almost every issue you have has been hit before, especially in a distro like Ubuntu.  You just have to spend a little time forming some proper google queries and you should get the answer.

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Once I get everything setup and running, I should be fine......

After that, most my questions are gonna be about Gnome or KDE...

thomas:

--- Quote ---I did get Ubuntu to install correctly, and I see why it is exceptionally good for those that haven't experienced Linux.  Its nice and I think I’m going to try to push it for a few days to see what I can do, but I don't think I’m going to be happy with it because I don't see any of the server setup for Apache
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Start the synaptic package manager, you can install apache from there if it is not on your system (I thought it was default install, though). Just check the small box, and press "apply changes".

takeshimiya:

--- Quote from: BeerSlinger on March 29, 2006, 10:27:28 pm ---No, I hadn't done a memory test.....is there one that your referring to specifically?

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Almost any distro comes with something called Memtest86.
You can select it at grub/lilo boot up process, either on your live cd or your hard disk installation.


--- Quote from: BeerSlinger on March 29, 2006, 10:27:28 pm ---I did get Ubuntu to install correctly, and I see why it is exceptionally good for those that haven't experienced Linux.  Its nice and I think I’m going to try to push it for a few days to see what I can do, but I don't think I’m going to be happy with it because I don't see any of the server setup for Apache........

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Everything is crystal clear explained in the wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP

From now, all doubts you could have, try these steps, and you will have very good chances of solve all problems you may have:
-Search at the Ubuntu wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com
-Search at the Ubuntu forums: http://ubuntuforums.org
-Search at the Ubuntu help bundled with the distro.
-Search at Google: http://www.google.com
-Search at the Ubuntu mailing lists: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/lists
-Ask for help at the Ubuntu IRC channels: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/irc
-Post at the Ubuntu forums: http://ubuntuforums.org

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