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thomas:
Well, what can I say... I have read at least one dozen posts on this forum ranging from problems unzipping an archive to missing executables and DLLs, as well as about a dozen posts on a diversity of Linux forums as well as the RedHat installation list stating that <insert random software> does not work for you.
I forgot where it was, but you once talked about nearly every existing free IDE too, and none of them worked for you (including Code::Blocks).
So in one word, no software (whatever it is) works for you. However, I myself work with the same software every day, and I never see a problem.
Taking RedHat/Fedora as an example, I have been using RedHat and later Fedora for servers since 1996. The hardware ranged from i386 with 16MB of RAM, NE2000 network and no video card over Cyrix 6x86 machines with Trident VGA and $5 network cards to Pentium III/IV systems with builtin TNT2 and unknown onboard LAN, and last but not least AMD64 machines with 2GB of RAM and Marvell Yukon 1000 Mbit network. I never had any kind of problem with RedHat or Fedora during all this time. Usually, those machines had uptimes on the order of one year (only rebooting after installing a new Linux release).
A couple of months ago, Yiannis hinted me to Ubuntu. Although I will probably never abandon Fedora (because I am used to it), Ubuntu is a really, really good system, it is absolutely foolproof. It worked fine out of the box with whatever hardware I tried, the perfect end-user system.
I really cannot understand why it does not work for you. Your system (AMD64 3200, Radeon X800, onboard AC97, and Marvell Yukon 88E8001) is not that unusual at all. A million people have PCs like that. I have similar (or identical) components in several of my PCs myself, and both Fedora and Ubuntu work reliably with that hardware. No need to configure a single thing.
The only really unusual thing about your PC is that you have 4 or 5 CD/DVD drives (I don't remember the exact number), but this should really not be a show stopper...
BeerSlinger:
--- Quote from: thomas on March 29, 2006, 08:18:06 pm ---Well, what can I say... I have read at least one dozen posts on this forum ranging from problems unzipping an archive to missing executables and DLLs, as well as about a dozen posts on a diversity of Linux forums as well as the RedHat installation list stating that <insert random software> does not work for you.
I forgot where it was, but you once talked about nearly every existing free IDE too, and none of them worked for you (including Code::Blocks).
So in one word, no software (whatever it is) works for you. However, I myself work with the same software every day, and I never see a problem.
Taking RedHat/Fedora as an example, I have been using RedHat and later Fedora for servers since 1996. The hardware ranged from i386 with 16MB of RAM, NE2000 network and no video card over Cyrix 6x86 machines with Trident VGA and $5 network cards to Pentium III/IV systems with builtin TNT2 and unknown onboard LAN, and last but not least AMD64 machines with 2GB of RAM and Marvell Yukon 1000 Mbit network. I never had any kind of problem with RedHat or Fedora during all this time. Usually, those machines had uptimes on the order of one year (only rebooting after installing a new Linux release).
A couple of months ago, Yiannis hinted me to Ubuntu. Although I will probably never abandon Fedora (because I am used to it), Ubuntu is a really, really good system, it is absolutely foolproof. It worked fine out of the box with whatever hardware I tried, the perfect end-user system.
I really cannot understand why it does not work for you. Your system (AMD64 3200, Radeon X800, onboard AC97, and Marvell Yukon 88E8001) is not that unusual at all. A million people have PCs like that. I have similar (or identical) components in several of my PCs myself, and both Fedora and Ubuntu work reliably with that hardware. No need to configure a single thing.
The only really unusual thing about your PC is that you have 4 or 5 CD/DVD drives (I don't remember the exact number), but this should really not be a show stopper...
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I think I know what your refuring to, but i'm not sure....
--- Quote from: thomas on March 29, 2006, 08:18:06 pm ---Well, what can I say... I have read at least one dozen posts on this forum ranging from problems unzipping an archive to missing executables and DLLs, as well as about a dozen posts on a diversity of Linux forums as well as the RedHat installation list stating that <insert random software> does not work for you.
I forgot where it was, but you once talked about nearly every existing free IDE too, and none of them worked for you (including Code::Blocks).
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I did post a question about an error message that was given about broken bios......I finally resolved this but I never posted that, yes, and it is true, the PC that i'm on has 5 CD's, 5 HD's 2 PCI IDE One IDE controler only and one RAID controler only.....
The problem and solution was first I tried to put linux on too low the bus......it didn't want to work on the PCI IDE's......so I took some asprin and riped my machine apart and put it on the raid......well, it didn't want to work there either.......so I gave it the primary IDE.....and it worked fine........I got everything to work with putting Redhat on master on the primary ide and windows on master raid.......then everything went swimingly...
I don't know what your talking about with code blocks not working.....It was a little bit of a curveball with the nightly build and undestanding the concept of it......but once I knew where to get it, it wasn't a problem.......then I began to understand the whole concept of WXWidget.dll after someone explained that I needed it and then started to do some digging.......to be honest, i've never had a problem with C::B for windows in the least.......Its been more stable then most programs that i've gotten, even over programs from microsoft....
My basic problem with Redhat has been simple......core 4 installs fine, but when I try to install software on it, everything goes south.......with core 5 it continually crashs in setup......it doesn't matter if its a clean install or update, it doesn't matter.......the only thing I haven't done is to track down either the device or software option that is crashing.....that could be done by unattaching everything or tracking install, one option at a time......to me, just trying to get up and running.....it wasn't practical.....frankly, the whole reason for opening this up is to find what works and then just go there.....
now that i'm fresh today, I'm getting ready to try Ubuntu again......now that i've calmed down and had a moment to breath........I have a bad feeling that I was trying Ubuntu on a bad day.......When I looked back, I should have tried Debian first......I really didn't really expect something so simple, and it puzzled me a bit because it was very rudementary......
takeshimiya:
--- Quote from: BeerSlinger on March 29, 2006, 08:48:58 pm ---My basic problem with Redhat has been simple......core 4 installs fine, but when I try to install software on it, everything goes south.......with core 5 it continually crashs in setup......it doesn't matter if its a clean install or update, it doesn't matter.......the only thing I haven't done is to track down either the device or software option that is crashing.....that could be done by unattaching everything or tracking install, one option at a time......to me, just trying to get up and running.....it wasn't practical.....frankly, the whole reason for opening this up is to find what works and then just go there.....
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I'm beginning to think you have hardware problems such as faulty ram or hard disk.
Have you checked your ram against memtest?
Another thing, try to focus with one distro and one problem at a time.
If something doesn't works at first it can be frustrating, but usually a configuration setting solves it, or a new kernel, or a new driver.
For example, I couldn't get linux working no matter how hard I tried on this machine (altrough I had experience in other machines).
Well, it was because the chipset was really supported on kernel 2.6.11 and up. And at that time all the distros (except Gentoo) had 2.6.11 kernels or lower, so I couldn't even boot.
But then the distros started to come with new kernels, and I tried Ubuntu 5.10, which worked for the first time well.
I had to put some bootup parameters thanks to some chipset idiosincracies, but fortunately Ubuntu forums and Google exists :D
And then, the last problem was I couldn't get past 1024x768 in this monitor, no matter what option I would choose.
Then, after downloading and installing the ATI propietary driver, everything worked nicely. :)
Game_Ender:
You should also learn to make good use of the resources on the internet the Ubuntu wiki is awesome and full of great answers to almost anything you would want to do with Ubuntu. Heck, with almost no linux experience I manged to compile and install comedi along with its kernel modules in Ubuntu. Something that Redhat makes hard with there altered kernel source.
Here is something I am learning the more I use open source: Searching Mailing Lists, Forums, the Web, Wiki's and Manuals will almost always solve your problem and it will be quicker than a forum post. Almost every issue you have has been hit before, especially in a distro like Ubuntu. You just have to spend a little time forming some proper google queries and you should get the answer.
Michael:
Regarding ubuntu, what I also like is the availability of different web-forums (different languages) :). If I do not find what I search in the english forum, then I search in the italian, french, German and/or Portuguese one. Normally, I find quite fast an aswer to my query. Naturally, I avoid to cross-post the same question in each web forum :).
Best wishes,
Michael
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