Developer forums (C::B DEVELOPMENT STRICTLY!) > CodeCompletion redesign
New code completion plugin w/ refactoring
Michael:
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--- Quote from: Michael on March 21, 2006, 11:28:06 am ---Sorry, but I am quite shocked by your post :shock:.
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That's alright. Sometimes it is very good for our health to be shoked (adrenaline, you know) :)
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Thank you, but in these weeks I have had enough adrenaline for the next 10 years, especially today :).
--- Quote from: Ptomaine on March 21, 2006, 02:05:31 pm ---
--- Quote from: Michael on March 21, 2006, 11:28:06 am ---First of all, I find that the devs of Code::Blocks are doing a great work :D. Morevover, they work in their free time and they get not paid for it.
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My big respect to all of devs. But the difference between October's RC2 and the most recent one is quite small. I don't feel relief from version to version. I don't care how much IDE is looking good, but I care the functionalities it offers. Wrong development accents?
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Ehm. Here I should agree with Thomas. Compare RC2 with the latest nightly build and you will see the differences. IMHO the development accent is put on the right place :D.
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--- Quote from: Michael on March 21, 2006, 11:28:06 am ---Second, I do not like to much to always ask for new features, bug fixes, and so on without trying to contribute to the project. Consequently, I try to help as I can in my free and not free time :D.
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Applauses. But I prefer to do things that I can do best. If I have no idea how refactoring or effective parcer work than I will not begin to do this because others already have some good ideas on this account. So, why to create doubts and chaos? Donation? :)
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I can accept your point of view, anyway, even if you do not have knowledge about parsing/refactoring, but interest and a bit of time, then you can try to create a code completion. Moreover, you will become help from the other users/devs. Consequently, you will learn something new and that it could be useful in the future :).
--- Quote from: Ptomaine on March 21, 2006, 02:05:31 pm ---
--- Quote from: Michael on March 21, 2006, 11:28:06 am ---Third, it is true that code completion needs some improvments, but anyway, it is not so bad. Rickg22 did a good job with it :D. Arto has had an accident (I hope he will get well soon). If not I am sure he would have done a good job.
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Aha. I always turn this plugin off because it slows down my programming but it's supposed to make programming faster! When I download a new version of Code::Blocks, in hope, the first thing I do is turning the code completion plugin on, testing it for a minute and than turning it off again. Know why, because it's not helping me but slowing down my work. I need it but I cannot work faster with the present version of the plugin.
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I let it on. I use it sometimes and normally it does not disturb me.
--- Quote from: Ptomaine on March 21, 2006, 02:05:31 pm ---
--- Quote from: Michael on March 21, 2006, 11:28:06 am ---And also, help is welcome :D. May be you can help in developing the code completion or taking the work initially started by Arto :).
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I'm kind of a sound programmer :). Will multimedia save the world and relief the pain? :)
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I am also involved in the multimedia domain, mostly MPEG-7/21, UMA and semantic.
If multimedia would save the world? Let we hope for it.... :lol:
--- Quote from: Ptomaine on March 21, 2006, 02:05:31 pm ---
--- Quote from: Michael on March 21, 2006, 11:28:06 am ---Best wishes,
Michael
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Thank you, Michael, for your respond. I really like the way you've tried to protect development and to argue back to me, but...
All the best to you.
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I think that all the devs here deserve respect for what they are doing. Just my humble opinion anyway :). Rickg22 put a lot of time and passion in his work and the results are very good.
Anyway more than argue, I see this discussion as an exchange of opinions :D.
Best wishes,
Michael
Ptomaine:
Ok, guys.
First, I'm sorry, guys, for my offensive words towards Arto. I'm really sorry. I didn't mean that.
Well, let's imagine my situation.
I've started using CB about a half year ago. I've created a project and been working on it. I update CB bona fide, time to time with the nightly builds. And continue working. An IDE for me is a kind of a tool that helps me to EDIT my source code, BUILD it and DEBUG it in a convenient way. Generally, it must help me to work. When I said that there was no difference between RC2 and the most recent build then I've ment that the new versions hadn't facilitate eighter my EDITing or BUILDing or DEBUGing processes. For me, CB has changed visually but its new features didn't reflect on my work. For instance, I use a cup to drink and I really do not care how it looks like. The main thing is the cup lets me drink - it is its general usage (it does the work it's supposed to do) :). So, here it is. Moreover, it seems to me that CB's RC2 state had been frozen forever (kidding :))
Anyway, guys, I love what you are doing. And sure, you want to turn CB into something amazing.
All my strict words were said because I want CB become something amazing and I care it.
I've just been frightened of myself when I wanted to change the IDE I love (CB) to UPP... so, I've seethed up...
Hugs and kisses :) (the patient's rescued :))
takeshimiya:
--- Quote from: Ptomaine on March 21, 2006, 10:58:51 pm ---Ok, guys.
First, I'm sorry, guys, for my offensive words towards Arto. I'm really sorry. I didn't mean that.
Well, let's imagine my situation.
I've started using CB about a half year ago. I've created a project and been working on it. I update CB bona fide, time to time with the nightly builds. And continue working. An IDE for me is a kind of a tool that helps me to EDIT my source code, BUILD it and DEBUG it in a convenient way. Generally, it must help me to work. When I said that there was no difference between RC2 and the most recent build then I've ment that the new versions hadn't facilitate eighter my EDITing or BUILDing or DEBUGing processes. For me, CB has changed visually for me but its new features didn't reflect on my work. For instance, I use cups to drink and I really do not care how it looks like. The main thing, the cup lets me drink - it is its general usage (it does the work it's supposed to do) :). So, here it is.
Anyway, guys, I love what you are doing. And sure, you want to turn CB into something amazing.
All my strict words were said because I want CB become something amazing and I care it.
I've just been frightened of myself when I wanted to change the IDE I love (CB) to UPP... so, I've seethed up...
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I understand all the features you might want, but you must understand two things:
-C::B is under heavy development.
-Lack of human resources (time). All of this is being done by few people in spare time and in a free way.
What you can do from your position is: spread the word, so more developers can join the effort, report bugs, send patches, etc.
Particularly on CodeCompletion, right now, the only devs working (coding) on redesign it are TDragon and ddiego (in separate ways).
You might know that C++ parsing is hell, and so is CodeCompletion, along with threading, performance issues, etc.
It's not an easy topic.
thomas:
--- Quote ---When I said that there was no difference between RC2 and the most recent build then I've ment that the new versions hadn't facilitate eighter my EDITing or BUILDing or DEBUGing processes
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And here is the proof, you have *obviously* never used the debugger :lol:
The debugger in RC2 was unusable, a pain at best. The present version is (although still work in progress) simply amazing.
Ptomaine:
--- Quote from: thomas on March 21, 2006, 11:17:28 pm ---
--- Quote ---When I said that there was no difference between RC2 and the most recent build then I've ment that the new versions hadn't facilitate eighter my EDITing or BUILDing or DEBUGing processes
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And here is the proof, you have *obviously* never used the debugger :lol:
The debugger in RC2 was unusable, a pain at best. The present version is (although still work in progress) simply amazing.
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Debugging... debugging... ok. true! But editing and building goes before, Ha! :)
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