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Offline mandrav

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Move repository to subversion?
« on: November 18, 2005, 12:56:16 am »
Last week, SF CVS was misbehaving badly resulting in the corruption of two newly added files last Friday. I had to rewrite them almost from scratch. I don't need to tell you that I was really pissed off  :x.
They supposedly "plan" support for subversion for at least a year now. Every now and then, they release a mail that svn support is planned, etc, etc. Leave alone the fact that I don't really understand what's to plan: setup a machine like you would for cvs, install subversion, done.

I 'm tired of waiting, really. So, there's a thought to move the repository to berlios.
So, what does the community think?
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Re: Move repository to subversion?
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2005, 01:35:18 am »
IMHO, its the best versioning system among the free ones (Clearcase/Clearquest rox).
Great features to work offline ;-)
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Re: Move repository to subversion?
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2005, 01:36:54 am »
I know for sure the answer of thomas :lol:

I don't have problems if you're going to move *only* the repository to BerliOS SVN, but not the entire site.

SVN support in sf.net is in testing stage, they're redesigning all the whole SourceForge (did you noticed that they changed the CMS SF uses for the site in the last week?)
but they haven't said an ETA yet. See the sf.net blog here: http://blog.dev.sf.net/

You could move the repository to BerliOS in the mean time, and when SF haves support ready for SVN then move the repository back (this is what they recommend also).
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Re: Move repository to subversion?
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2005, 02:07:53 am »
Quote from: Takeshi Miya on November 18, 2005, 01:36:54 am
You could move the repository to BerliOS in the mean time, and when SF haves support ready for SVN then move the repository back (this is what they recommend also).

Lol? They can't be serious.
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takeshimiya

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Re: Move repository to subversion?
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2005, 02:18:55 am »
Haha, yep, they doesn't say explicitly say BerliOS.

Quoted from sf.net:
We also ask that you not install or configure Subversion to use
the project shell server for your repository. The purpose of
that
system is simply to allow you to maintain your project web
site,
not for actual development (the load is already high enough).
Please find another host for Subversion usage.

Thank you,

SourceForge.net Support
« Last Edit: November 18, 2005, 02:23:02 am by Takeshi Miya »
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takeshimiya

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Re: Move repository to subversion?
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2005, 02:22:34 am »
UPDATE: As a developer you can submit your project to be in the list of beta testing of SourceForge SVN.

For that you must fill a Feature Request like this.
« Last Edit: November 18, 2005, 02:24:48 am by Takeshi Miya »
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Re: Move repository to subversion?
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2005, 08:52:48 am »
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I don't have problems if you're going to move *only* the repository to BerliOS SVN, but not the entire site.

Yes, I 'm talking about the repository. The site isn't on sourceforge anyway...

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SVN support in sf.net is in testing stage

Quote from: SF.NET UPDATE 2005-10-31
Our progress on CVS performance and reliability has freed up resources
to begin planning deployment of a long-awaited Subversion offering.

They want to "begin planning" subversion support... They 're in this "begin planning" stage for over a year...

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As a developer you can submit your project to be in the list of beta testing of SourceForge SVN.

I have, but I don't hold my breath ;)
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Re: Move repository to subversion?
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2005, 09:00:57 am »
Quote from: mandrav on November 18, 2005, 08:52:48 am
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They want to "begin planning" subversion support... They 're in this "begin planning" stage for over a year...
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Bad :(

My hot head said SVN!
My cold mind said CVS.

I vote to SVN, I love it more.

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Re: Move repository to subversion?
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2005, 05:14:35 pm »
I also would prefer SVN on Berlios - not only because it's SVN but Berlios seems to have much less performance problems than sf.net...
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Re: Move repository to subversion?
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2005, 08:13:02 pm »
I would generally agree. Recently I had the same thoughts at work where I (with a small group of other developers) use CVS. Subversion is really promising and already stable. Also converting CVS to Subversion worked from scratch with the tools provided by tigris.org (at least for me).

But: In the end we did not switch because of the lack of GUI's for Subversion. A lot are being developed but besides Tortoise in my opinion none is ready-to-use. For us, Tortoise was no option because of the Explorer integration - we clearly prefer a stand-alone program. I don't know, if this is important for Code::Blocks, I just thought it might be helpful to share that experience.

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Re: Move repository to subversion?
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2005, 08:25:07 pm »
Well, there is RapidSVN if you absolutely must have a standalone program.
And of course, you could always call TortoiseProc directly ;)
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Re: Move repository to subversion?
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2005, 08:32:10 pm »
Thanks for the hints!

Quote from: thomas on November 18, 2005, 08:25:07 pm
Well, there is RapidSVN if you absolutely must have a standalone program.
I know about that, I just checked the webpage and: It has indeed changed a lot (the last version I gave a try was 0.60 which crashed far too often...). The only thing I am not sure of: The webpage states that one is required to use SubVersion v1.00 which is really old and has quite a few bugs. But maybe it will also work with a recent version...?! I should give it a try...

Quote from: thomas on November 18, 2005, 08:25:07 pm
And of course, you could always call TortoiseProc directly ;)
Yes, that's right, but I LOVE GUI's (I have used MS-DOS too long). I don't like playing too much with command-line tools. Why do you think I am using Code::Blocks...?! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Morten.

EDIT: Uuuh! This was my 100'th post, now I "live here." :shock:
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Re: Move repository to subversion?
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2005, 11:34:21 pm »
Subversion up to and including 1.2.3 is  downwards compatible to Subversion 1.0.
TortoiseProc is the GUI part of TortoiseSVN.
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« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2005, 11:35:26 pm »
Anyone suggested perforce? They are really powerful and will give you their software provided you're opensource.
I'll be happy to setup the server and such.
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Re: Move repository to subversion?
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2005, 11:38:54 pm »
--->Money?
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