I hope Code::Blocks IDE with MINGW compiler can also release version 1.0-RC1-1

[bud]

I only see Code::Blocks IDE without compiler release version 1.0-RC1-1.
I hope Code::Blocks IDE with MINGW compiler can also release version 1.0-RC1-1.

[darklordsatan]

If you read well, the 1.0-RC1-1 can work as a "patch" for the previous version RC1 with MinGW bundled (which I assume you have). Its not like MinGW has changed at all...

[phlox81]

You might should provide a mingw installer package instead of bringing it with an c::b installation 

[rickg22]

If you want a mingw installer package, why not go to http://www.mingw.org/ instead?  :?

[phlox81]

If you want a mingw installer package, why not go to http://www.mingw.org/ instead?  :?

I already got one

[thomas]

I've experienced that the MinGW installer is not so great, sometimes. It failed me couple of times with "most recent" or "candidate" ("install an old compiler" strangely always worked).

Bundling compilers with the IDE is also awkward. When migrating from Dev-CPP to code::blocks I found myself in versioning hell. Two bundled compilers, and one manually installed.
There is nothing more annoying than having to guess which compiler and which header file from which version will be used the next time. Yuck.

The strategy that seems to work best for me is:
Download all the .tar.gz files by hand and unpack them into C:\MinGW. Copy all headers in there, too.
No exceptions, no compromises. If anything ever fails, just overwrite that folder. If you want to upgrade to another version or change anything, overwrite that folder.
You know what you get, and you know what you don't get

[David Perfors]

Bundling compilers with the IDE is also awkward. When migrating from Dev-CPP to code::blocks I found myself in versioning hell. Two bundled compilers, and one manually installed.
There is nothing more annoying than having to guess which compiler and which header file from which version will be used the next time. Yuck.

I think that is why we have a stand alone version of codeblocks But for people who don't have any compiler it is fantastic :lol:

[bud]

If you want a mingw installer package, why not go to http://www.mingw.org/ instead?  :?

Because the MinGW-4.1.0.exe in http://www.mingw.org/download.shtml is not a complete version.
MinGW-4.1.0.exe must download other suites from Internet.
So it is convenient for Code::Blocks IDE having MINGW compiler.

[rickg22]

AGH.... well, there are the individual files... erm... ok i got your point. I'll talk to Yiannis about it when he returns from his 3-week vacation.

[darklordsatan]

Erm, an offtopic throw here.
If you download all the packages pointed in http://www.mingw.org/download.shtml, then you actually wont need "MinGW-4.1.0.exe" since all it does is try to download those? Or am I missing something here?

[thomas]

Erm, an offtopic throw here.
If you download all the packages pointed in http://www.mingw.org/download.shtml, then you actually wont need "MinGW-4.1.0.exe" since all it does is try to download those? Or am I missing something here?

That is right. And you don't even need all the packages if you don't use objective-c, java native, and ada.

[darklordsatan]

That is right. And you don't even need all the packages if you don't use objective-c, java native, and ada.

Oh no, java+ada=. I just got a little confussed here (prior cygwin experience?), but In fact I download all the packages (the ones that matter that is).

[kagerato]

Oh no, java+ada=. I just got a little confussed here (prior cygwin experience?), but In fact I download all the packages (the ones that matter that is).

Even if you add the weight of the extra binaries, the MinGW suite is still pretty light on disk space.  I prefer the bare essentials, though.

I'm heavily inclined toward modular design in programming, so it's difficult for me to understand why people like their IDE packaged with a compiler (or vice-versa).  Do people honestly spend hours creating applications and truly care about the few minutes it takes to setup the environment?

[rickg22]

kagerato: Some users are newbies, they want everything preinstalled so they can start working on it. They don't want to meddle in compilation of libraries, operating systems, etc.

And a lot of them come from a Microsoft background, where they just double-click and start designing their apps.

[darklordsatan]

kagerato: Some users are newbies, they want everything preinstalled so they can start working on it. They don't want to meddle in compilation of libraries, operating systems, etc.

And a lot of them come from a Microsoft background, where they just double-click and start designing their apps.

I couldnt agree more. while right now I like to download MinGW myself for instance, I remember back in the times when I was just starting to program (like 4 years ago or so) and you know, I barely knew about all this "compiler" fuzz, so I needed an IDE to do all the "dirty" stuff for me. And Im sure lots of people who download C::B want this behaviour.
Besides, if we talk about MinGW for example, its not really newbie-friendly when it comes to explain what packages should you download...