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Free virtualisation (running C::B on multiple OS?)

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artoj:
VMWare Player is restricted to existing pre-made virtualization OSes only. You can't create new ones with it. However, you can get VMWare Server from VMWare's site for free. It can host quite a number of OSes and you can create new ones with it too.

Virtualization is very interesting indeed. The first thing I did when I got my Win2000 installed as virtual OS was to go to a random phishing site, download random exes from the site and run them, the Win2K installation didn't ofcourse have any security updates installed. After testing them I just reverted to earlier snapshot and continued playing with it without any spyware.

The virtualization is very depended on hardware. On my system (AMD Athlon64 3200+, 1 GB RAM) using applications in the virtualized OS is very slow. For example the menus in C::B are drawn with noticeable delay. I guess dual core processor and some extra ram would help.

Another bad thing in VMWare server is that it installs several processes / services which are run always in the background. I've heard that Virtual PC doesn't do this, but I'm not sure.

    Arto

TheTuxKeeper:

--- Quote from: killerbot on July 12, 2006, 11:45:33 pm ---LOL

PS : since you are the expert, I will post some questions in your direction this weekend or next week ( === your my technical linux client support contact  :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: ) wrt my linux problems and lack of knowledge ;-)

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They have to be afraid! Nearly every big linux distri integrates xen and windows runs with xen and a virtualization capable processor without having to hack it :P  So there's no need for windows as host system :lol:
Ok, I'll stop proselytising you all  :lol:

Ask whenever you want, I'll help you as far as I can ;) I also want to install Suse 10.1 next week (the CD is already downloaded), so I can also help you if it's a special thing. There's a big difference between Suse 10.0 and 10.1

--- Quote from: artoj on July 12, 2006, 11:48:49 pm ---The virtualization is very depended on hardware. On my system (AMD Athlon64 3200+, 1 GB RAM) using applications in the virtualized OS is very slow. For example the menus in C::B are drawn with noticeable delay. I guess dual core processor and some extra ram would help.

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But I think processor with virtualization support would speed up the whole thing. But you're right, it's slower than the host system.
I'll test virtualization, but only OpenVZ. It supports running few Linux systems with one and the same kernel (there's nearly no overhead, so it runs as fast as usual) :D

mdelfede:

--- Quote from: daniel2000 on July 12, 2006, 11:39:31 pm ---They're all afraid of Xen ;)

btw. You don't need all these stuff. Just install Linux and Wine :mrgreen:

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Eh... I have used wine, nice piece of software, I have submitted some small patches to have autocad run on it (4 years ago, Autocad R14), but for many apps (CAD in particular) is too far away from being usable for production purposes.
It's a pity, 'cause CAD is the only thing that keeps me from switching to Linux completely.

I'd love to see an open source cad similar to AutoCAD on linux, (maybe built on C::B !!!) but I see no interest for developers to do it.... All people interested in cloning Office (it's incredible how many 'mighty Excel' are around there   :? ), and no production-stable open source CAD at all...

Ciao

Max

Ceniza:
VMware Player can be restricted to existing configurations but that doesn't mean you cannot use a free third-party software to create the configuration file and even the initial hdd file. That's what I did and it worked pretty nicely :)

artoj:

--- Quote from: Ceniza on July 13, 2006, 10:05:38 am ---VMware Player can be restricted to existing configurations but that doesn't mean you cannot use a free third-party software to create the configuration file and even the initial hdd file. That's what I did and it worked pretty nicely :)

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Sure, but like I said, you can get the Server version for free (as in beer) from VMWare's site. Also, the Server version has been in a public beta for a long time (before the actual final release that happened few days ago).

    Arto

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