Author Topic: C::B Logo Contest  (Read 25169 times)

takeshimiya

  • Guest
C::B Logo Contest
« on: February 01, 2006, 06:36:53 pm »
Hi!

Here are the candidates (in chronological order):

Previous [by Yiannis]
Splash Screen:



Previous [by Thomas]
Splash screen:


About/Splash screen *nix:



Proposal [by Takeshi Miya]
Splash screen:


About/Splash screen *nix:



Actual [by Thomas]
Splash screen:


About/Splash screen *nix:


One vote per user.
Raise your vote! :P
« Last Edit: February 01, 2006, 06:39:26 pm by Takeshi Miya »

sethjackson

  • Guest
Re: C::B Logo Contest
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2006, 06:41:08 pm »
Well I voted for Proposal [by Takeshi Miya]. I really like it. The only thing that I really see wrong with it is that the bottom, and side edges of a couple of the blocks are a little jagged (it is sort of subtle though)......
« Last Edit: February 01, 2006, 06:43:03 pm by sethjackson »

Offline thomas

  • Administrator
  • Lives here!
  • *****
  • Posts: 3979
Re: C::B Logo Contest
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2006, 06:43:04 pm »
Takeshi, what's the point in this poll, anyway?
"We should forget about small efficiencies, say about 97% of the time: Premature quotation is the root of public humiliation."

takeshimiya

  • Guest
Re: C::B Logo Contest
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2006, 06:45:55 pm »
Takeshi, what's the point in this poll, anyway?

Yiannis asked...
You wish it was that easy, don't you? ;)
Someone who cares, should start a poll about it and after it's over, notify me of the results :).

In case itsn't clear, the point is the one that wins, will be notified to Yiannis, and he will decide if it will be the official logo.
« Last Edit: February 01, 2006, 06:48:21 pm by Takeshi Miya »

sethjackson

  • Guest
Re: C::B Logo Contest
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2006, 06:46:32 pm »

Offline Michael

  • Lives here!
  • ****
  • Posts: 1608
Re: C::B Logo Contest
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2006, 06:48:59 pm »
One vote per user.
Raise your vote! :P

I really like the actual one (by Thomas), even if a bit big (IMHO of course :)).

Michael

Offline polygon7

  • Multiple posting newcomer
  • *
  • Posts: 104
    • Home site
Re: C::B Logo Contest
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2006, 07:21:32 pm »
IMHO the best logos are "previous" by Thomas  (rc2) (second place are by Yiannis) - they are simple, clean and readable (especially *nix logo).
Don't offence, but...
I don't like "proposal" logos by Takeshi Miya becouse, imho, they are overloaded by "shadow" effect and they have strange two-color background (plastic-like effect?).
I don't like "actual" logos by Thomas becouse, imho, colors are bad and "hurts eyes".
best regards,
p7
 Free open source UML modeling tool: ArgoUML

Offline artoj

  • Almost regular
  • **
  • Posts: 206
  • Location: Supporting my team
    • http://ajonsson.kapsi.fi/
Re: C::B Logo Contest
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2006, 08:05:26 pm »
I voted Yannis', I like its simplicity.

What I didn't like in Takeshi Miya's images is the blue number one, the color just doesn't fit to that image IMO.

Thomas, your image is good but you over-use emboss/colors (in Actual).

What bothers me in every image is the huge number one. :(
« Last Edit: February 01, 2006, 08:14:54 pm by artoj »

takeshimiya

  • Guest
Re: C::B Logo Contest
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2006, 08:10:33 pm »
IMHO the best logos are "previous" by Thomas  (rc2) (second place are by Yiannis) - they are simple, clean and readable (especially *nix logo).
Don't offence, but...
I don't like "proposal" logos by Takeshi Miya becouse, imho, they are overloaded by "shadow" effect and they have strange two-color background (plastic-like effect?).
I don't like "actual" logos by Thomas becouse, imho, colors are bad and "hurts eyes".

You mean something more like this, or I interpreted it bad? (sorry if the colors are a bit strange, it's a mockup)


I'm open to suggestions. :)

What I didn't like in Takeshi Miya's images is the blue number one, the color just doesn't fit to that image IMO.
It was gray originally, but most people here liked the version with blue gradient, so I posted that.

What bothers me in every image is the huge number one. :(
If you see it chronologically, it's being carried from the Yiannis original one.

Perhaps something like this?:

« Last Edit: February 01, 2006, 08:25:27 pm by Takeshi Miya »

sethjackson

  • Guest
Re: C::B Logo Contest
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2006, 08:20:22 pm »
Wow that (the one with the blue one) is even better than the proposal.....

Offline artoj

  • Almost regular
  • **
  • Posts: 206
  • Location: Supporting my team
    • http://ajonsson.kapsi.fi/
Re: C::B Logo Contest
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2006, 08:24:05 pm »
Perhaps something like this?:

And we have a winner.... :)

Offline rickg22

  • Lives here!
  • ****
  • Posts: 2283
Re: C::B Logo Contest
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2006, 08:26:17 pm »
Yes, I like takeshimiya's latest. No big "1" in there, plain and simple. Actually, I liked Thomas' idea, but the red one was kinda unexpected and well :-/. I'd like it if you removed that 1, sorry.

Offline polygon7

  • Multiple posting newcomer
  • *
  • Posts: 104
    • Home site
Re: C::B Logo Contest
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2006, 08:27:27 pm »
You mean something more like this, or I interpreted it bad? (sorry if the colors are a bit strange, it's a mockup)
<image>
I'm open to suggestions. :)
Much better :D
best regards,
p7
 Free open source UML modeling tool: ArgoUML

Offline jayatk

  • Multiple posting newcomer
  • *
  • Posts: 40
Re: C::B Logo Contest
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2006, 08:33:33 pm »
Better without the one :D

Offline Michael

  • Lives here!
  • ****
  • Posts: 1608
Re: C::B Logo Contest
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2006, 08:33:43 pm »
I have never thought that such a lot of people like the simplicity :o. Interesting :D.

IMHO Thomas new logo is some kind of different, innovative and original. May be it is too big and the red one could be removed, but anyway, I still prefer it. Pity that I can vote only one time :D.

Michael

takeshimiya

  • Guest
Re: C::B Logo Contest
« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2006, 08:35:57 pm »
Ok, anyone opossed to the removal of the big 1?

sethjackson

  • Guest
Re: C::B Logo Contest
« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2006, 09:00:38 pm »

Offline killerbot

  • Administrator
  • Lives here!
  • *****
  • Posts: 5504
Re: C::B Logo Contest
« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2006, 09:07:07 pm »
apart from which one I like the most, I think as in Thomas's it's good to have the url in there.

Offline thomas

  • Administrator
  • Lives here!
  • *****
  • Posts: 3979
Re: C::B Logo Contest
« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2006, 09:09:10 pm »
apart from which one I like the most, I think as in Thomas's it's good to have the url in there.
Apart from that, Yiannis wanted it explicitely that way...

And no, you don't have a winner. You still don't see that this "contest" is pointless.
"We should forget about small efficiencies, say about 97% of the time: Premature quotation is the root of public humiliation."

sethjackson

  • Guest
Re: C::B Logo Contest
« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2006, 09:23:58 pm »
apart from which one I like the most, I think as in Thomas's it's good to have the url in there.
Apart from that, Yiannis wanted it explicitely that way...

And no, you don't have a winner. You still don't see that this "contest" is pointless.

And how so? Yiannis????

Offline Game_Ender

  • Lives here!
  • ****
  • Posts: 551
Re: C::B Logo Contest
« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2006, 09:24:43 pm »
I would like thomas' logo better if it didn't have an orange '1'.  Fix that and it will be pretty good.

takeshimiya

  • Guest
Re: C::B Logo Contest
« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2006, 09:24:53 pm »
You still don't see that this "contest" is pointless.
Mind explain the reasons of why you think that?
You're free to delete this poll, and please do if you think that...

Offline thomas

  • Administrator
  • Lives here!
  • *****
  • Posts: 3979
Re: C::B Logo Contest
« Reply #22 on: February 01, 2006, 09:37:08 pm »
And how so?
How so is easily explained. Takeshi pulls a "contest", taking a work-in-progress version of mine which he calls "current" and compares it to a few modifications which he has made in a couple of minutes. Sorry, but this is just ridiculous, there is no point in this comparison.

The splash screen has undergone many revisions and changes during the last 3 weeks. I have spent around 30 working hours on this image alone and produced about 200 different revisions in that time (Takeshi did not mention any interest in the matter even once during the last weeks).
As the splash screen has undergone changes, it will undergo further changes. So what good is this contest? What do you want to compare at all?

For example, Tiwag proposed a change on the backdrop colour only this afternoon. I am currently working on a couple of variations close to what he wants, and if it Yiannis tells me that it is ok, then the splash screen will look differently again. Also, the version in SVN does not have a drop shadow, which is intended in the final version. The "over embossing" is not done without reason either, it is the same style as it is used in the preferences icons. The colour of the digit, on the other hand, is not unlikely to be changed still... I could continue like this for forever.

The URL is in there because Yiannis wanted it like that. He also did not want the "Version 1.0" on the bottom. Do you think I would put it under SVN if I had not shown it to the other devs and had heard a few suggestions and got the boss' OK?
« Last Edit: February 01, 2006, 09:39:05 pm by thomas »
"We should forget about small efficiencies, say about 97% of the time: Premature quotation is the root of public humiliation."

Offline killerbot

  • Administrator
  • Lives here!
  • *****
  • Posts: 5504
Re: C::B Logo Contest
« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2006, 09:45:49 pm »
people always have different tastes. A contest could be interesting, maybe a super nice logo comes out of it, but even then. My girlfriend thinks our logo (and the proposals) are plain ugly. She's a webdesigner, artistic level ... , according to her we techies have no good feeling for this. ;-) 8)
So everyone will find another one better, worse, ....

Thing is, it is best once Version 1 is out, not to change logo's that fast, although remember Firefox ...

Anyhow, let's get back at killing bugs and adding new features. How about a plug-in that generates a logo of the day ...... no no no don't kill me  :twisted:

takeshimiya

  • Guest
Re: C::B Logo Contest
« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2006, 09:51:48 pm »
Takeshi pulls a "contest", taking a work-in-progress version of mine which he calls "current" and compares it to a few modifications which he has made in a couple of minutes. Sorry, but this is just ridiculous, there is no point in this comparison.
Sorry, but I was holding the "poll" until you had your last version. Today when I checked out the svn, I saw the new logo commited, which I thought was your latest version (and final word). You didn't specify in the log "not finished".
I wanted to be fair, if you cared to read:

However, maybe you should need to add another option in the poll, because I think read somewhere that thomas had made some new artworks for C::B, so that will be more fair.

(Takeshi did not mention any interest in the matter even once during the last weeks).
Because I was waiting for your new logo. I think everyone thought what includes the latest revision is your final version.

As the splash screen has undergone changes, it will undergo further changes. So what good is this contest? What do you want to compare at all?
Again, Yannis said to make a poll.
Even if your (and mine) logo is not final, the thread is still valid, because it gives a lot of user input on what the people want.
I like other people inputs, at least.


...and compares it to a few modifications which he has made in a couple of minutes.
Thank you for treating my work like that. It costed me more than a couple of minutes, and if you care to remember, I have made it from about the RC2 was made, long months ago. Even my SDK Reference manual is using that image.

Offline artoj

  • Almost regular
  • **
  • Posts: 206
  • Location: Supporting my team
    • http://ajonsson.kapsi.fi/
Re: C::B Logo Contest
« Reply #25 on: February 01, 2006, 09:55:58 pm »
Anyhow, let's get back at killing bugs and adding new features. How about a plug-in that generates a logo of the day ...... no no no don't kill me  :twisted:

From my plugin_ideas.txt:

"Code::Something, plugin that changes application title and splash image a'la Firesomething."

This was actually written before RC2 was released, I never got to writing the actual plugin, because it's just plain stupid :D. Maybe I shouldn't brainstrom ideas when drunk. :shock:

takeshimiya

  • Guest
Re: C::B Logo Contest
« Reply #26 on: February 01, 2006, 09:57:36 pm »
Thing is, it is best once Version 1 is out, not to change logo's that fast, although remember Firefox ...

Anyhow, let's get back at killing bugs and adding new features.
I think the same (thomas, and I) would have to be more focused on programming. It would be amazing if we have the artist designer of the Firefox logo for example. It should be a task for design people, not programmers.
The problem is that we are lacking human resources... so that's why we do it ourselves.

And BTW, the logo despite being something trivial, is very important.
What do you think that Firefox could be now if they still used the dinosaur logo?

First impressions is very important, and it's what attract people (and developers, etc).

Offline jayatk

  • Multiple posting newcomer
  • *
  • Posts: 40
Re: C::B Logo Contest
« Reply #27 on: February 01, 2006, 10:03:33 pm »
My girlfriend thinks our logo (and the proposals) are plain ugly. She's a webdesigner, artistic level ... , according to her we techies have no good feeling for this. ;-) 8)


Maybe she could propose a logo? 8)

Offline Revvy

  • Multiple posting newcomer
  • *
  • Posts: 32
Re: C::B Logo Contest
« Reply #28 on: February 01, 2006, 10:06:14 pm »
I really like the one Takeshi posted most recently.  It's smooth, simple and informative.
Cheers,
Revvy

Offline killerbot

  • Administrator
  • Lives here!
  • *****
  • Posts: 5504
Re: C::B Logo Contest
« Reply #29 on: February 01, 2006, 10:09:13 pm »
did everyone notice, the latest one (svn)  is talking about : Code::Blocks, the studio was dropped !!!!
Official name is Code::Blocks.

Offline thomas

  • Administrator
  • Lives here!
  • *****
  • Posts: 3979
Re: C::B Logo Contest
« Reply #30 on: February 01, 2006, 10:41:43 pm »
And BTW, the logo despite being something trivial, is very important. [...]
First impressions is very important, and it's what attract people (and developers, etc).
This is why I tried to make it a bit of an eye-catcher with interesting effects, not just a white square with rounded corners. It is why there are curves, cross-fades, and a smooth transparency falloff.
The main idea in this startup screen's design is to be "different". :)

It should be a task for design people, not programmers.
That's OK with me, I am not a programmer ;)

did everyone notice, the latest one (svn)  is talking about : Code::Blocks, the studio was dropped !!!!
Yes, that is the correct title. There is no "Studio".
"We should forget about small efficiencies, say about 97% of the time: Premature quotation is the root of public humiliation."

takeshimiya

  • Guest
Re: C::B Logo Contest
« Reply #31 on: February 01, 2006, 11:07:51 pm »
This is why I tried to make it a bit of an eye-catcher with interesting effects, not just a white square with rounded corners.
Thanks for the compliment.

It is why there are curves, cross-fades, and a smooth transparency falloff.
Yes, interesting, but you fail again to hear people feedback here.
Simplicity is what most people seems to like here, and it goes against all those stuff and effects.
That's why I changed my version to be more simple and clean.

I have never thought that such a lot of people like the simplicity :o. Interesting :D.
<-See what I mean?

That's OK with me, I am not a programmer ;)
If that's the case, me neither.

Offline 280Z28

  • Regular
  • ***
  • Posts: 397
  • *insert unicode here*
Re: C::B Logo Contest
« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2006, 04:25:47 am »
Did that thing that is in use now have some "assistance" in winning a contest, or did y'all actually vote for that :umm: :umm:

I hadn't updated my checkout for a while and just saw it.
78 280Z, "a few bolt-ons" - 12.71@109.04
99 Trans Am, "Daily Driver" - 525rwhp/475rwtq
 Check out The Sam Zone :cool:

takeshimiya

  • Guest
Re: C::B Logo Contest
« Reply #33 on: February 05, 2006, 05:10:11 am »
Did that thing that is in use now have some "assistance" in winning a contest, or did y'all actually vote for that :umm: :umm:

I hadn't updated my checkout for a while and just saw it.

Read some posts above and you'll know. :wink: