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Michael:
--- Quote from: Takeshi Miya on January 23, 2006, 03:17:54 am ---Choose your destiny. 8)
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IMHO 48x48 or 64x64 would be good :D.
Anyway, I feel a bit uncomfortable that the setting of plugins has been put within the Environment settings. IMHO, it would be better to let plugin outside as a separate entry (just to separate C::B core configuration from plugins configuration). Moreover, if more plugins would be added this would make the list rather huge and not so friendly if you would like to change the option of one plugin. May it would be possible to do as e.g., Eclipse. Main category --> collapsed --> sub-categories and so one.
Michael
Urxae:
--- Quote from: Takeshi Miya on January 23, 2006, 03:17:54 am ---[screenshots]
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Would this be a bad time to mention that those icons don't look like that on Windows 2000? There are black boxes around them. Lousy Alpha transparancy support strikes again. :?
Oh, and I take issue with the "Disabled dialogs" icon calling me insane just for wanting to know what it says :P.
takeshimiya:
--- Quote from: Michael on January 23, 2006, 10:49:25 am ---
--- Quote from: Takeshi Miya on January 23, 2006, 03:17:54 am ---Choose your destiny. 8)
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IMHO 48x48 or 64x64 would be good :D.
Anyway, I feel a bit uncomfortable that the setting of plugins has been put within the Environment settings. IMHO, it would be better to let plugin outside as a separate entry (just to separate C::B core configuration from plugins configuration). Moreover, if more plugins would be added this would make the list rather huge and not so friendly if you would like to change the option of one plugin. May it would be possible to do as e.g., Eclipse. Main category --> collapsed --> sub-categories and so one.
Michael
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Yes, something like "plugins categories" will be necessary in the future. Right now, C::B doesn't have 5000 plugins like Eclipse, so it is not necesary, but in the future...
Anyways, I think something like aMule (uses wxWidgets) uses is more comfortable (no need to scroll):
Or if having "Plugin Categories", a TreeCtrl would be better even. :)
Michael:
--- Quote from: Takeshi Miya on January 23, 2006, 11:15:01 am ---
--- Quote from: Michael on January 23, 2006, 10:49:25 am ---Anyway, I feel a bit uncomfortable that the setting of plugins has been put within the Environment settings. IMHO, it would be better to let plugin outside as a separate entry (just to separate C::B core configuration from plugins configuration). Moreover, if more plugins would be added this would make the list rather huge and not so friendly if you would like to change the option of one plugin. May it would be possible to do as e.g., Eclipse. Main category --> collapsed --> sub-categories and so one.
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Anyways, I think something like aMule (uses wxWidgets) uses is more comfortable (no need to scroll):
Or if having "Plugin Categories", a TreeCtrl would be better even. :)
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Yes, something like aMule or TreeCtrl would be a good solution :D.
Michael
thomas:
--- Quote from: Urxae on January 23, 2006, 11:10:16 am ---Would this be a bad time to mention that those icons don't look like that on Windows 2000? There are black boxes around them. Lousy Alpha transparancy support strikes again. :?
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Yes it would, but don't worry, everybody else is discussing this stuff too, although they had been told it is not finished... :lol:
For now, we won't be able to do anything about that issue. Once the preferences redesign is finished (so we are sure that we won't change the background colour any more), we can remove transparency alltogether and blend the icons against the background colour.
Using 8-bit transparency as a workaround is no option in this case, as this would very significantly affect image quality (a lot of alpha transparency is used in these).
--- Quote from: Michael on January 23, 2006, 10:49:25 am ---Anyway, I feel a bit uncomfortable that the setting of plugins has been put within the Environment settings.
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At the risk of being repetitive... it is not finished yet. A couple of things will still be subject to change. Very likely, plugins will also be classified in some manner. Compiler and debugger, for example, although technically plugins, are as good as "core", so they should not be hidden among a multitude of other plugins in the end.
Moving all non-core plugins to a separate dialog is possible, and likely to be done. At the present time, this is still work in progress.
--- Quote from: Takeshi Miya on January 23, 2006, 03:17:54 am ---Heh, you wanted it to be that easy, but that requieres a full recompile: :)
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Au contraire, mon capitaine.
It is in fact a lot more complicated. If you want to use 48x48 icons (or 64x64), then you will have to design them for that size. You cannot just scale the existing ones down, it does not work like this.
The reason why the icons have the size they have is that you are unable to see certain details below a certain size (as it happens, this is not visible in your screenshot, but it will be quite visible in some of the others). The smaller the target size, the harder it is to get everything right, as you have to make more and more abstractions to reduce the level of detail.
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