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When is the next version coming out?
oBFusCATed:
Krice:
You're missing the point quite badly. No one does C::B as a job, no one is paid for the work he/she is doing.
So most people work on C::B for fun or because they need certain features.
Also most of the developers have some workflow that they are testing everyday and it is known to work.
We're not using all features of C::B everyday. I've even disabled some of the plugins and I've never used them since.
Any feature outside our workflows might be broken beyond repair and we might not know it. We have no QA that clicks on the buttons randomly.
And the reason is simple - no one has stepped up to do the job. We do night builds, to make it possible random people to test newer features and code.
So if you want to help pick a nightly and test if everything you do with C::B works correctly.
If it doesn't report the issues here or on the sf page.
Otherwise just wait and get stuck with what it is released, hopefully soon, but don't expect it to be bug free, nor regression free.
To repeat once more - we're not a formal organisation and people cannot be forced to do things they are not interested doing!
This is how it works and nothing can be done about it.
Krice:
--- Quote from: oBFusCATed on November 06, 2015, 09:07:37 am ---And the reason is simple - no one has stepped up to do the job.
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Version 13.12 credits shows you have 13 programmers. I would say it's a big team for open source project. Surely one of them could test the program? You really can't expect users to do that job for you and even worse, put the blame on users for not testing the program and reporting bugs as the reason why the next release version can't be completed.
stahta01:
--- Quote from: Krice on November 06, 2015, 12:46:55 pm ---
--- Quote from: oBFusCATed on November 06, 2015, 09:07:37 am ---And the reason is simple - no one has stepped up to do the job.
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Version 13.12 credits shows you have 13 programmers. I would say it's a big team for open source project. Surely one of them could test the program? You really can't expect users to do that job for you and even worse, put the blame on users for not testing the program and reporting bugs as the reason why the next release version can't be completed.
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So, you know very little about program testing; I could spend months testing Code::Blocks and likely would still miss bugs.
Testing is NOT a easy job to do well! You have all the different OSes and Compiler that need tested; then, you have all the CB Plugins that need tested.
Tim S.
oBFusCATed:
--- Quote from: Krice on November 06, 2015, 12:46:55 pm ---Version 13.12 credits shows you have 13 programmers.
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Most of them are inactive at this moment.
--- Quote from: Krice on November 06, 2015, 12:46:55 pm --- I would say it's a big team for open source project. Surely one of them could test the program? You really can't expect users to do that job for you and even worse, put the blame on users for not testing the program and reporting bugs as the reason why the next release version can't be completed.
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We don't blame users that there is no release. Nor we blame users for anything.
You're the one blaming us that we don't release. If you want to help, grab a night build and report any problems that affect your workflow, otherwise just wait for the next release.
And yes we test the software by using it, but this is something completely different from a QA team testing some piece of functionality and trying to brake every feature advertised by developers. C::B's team has a QA team of zero as are most of the smallish open source projects.
Krice:
--- Quote from: oBFusCATed on November 06, 2015, 08:37:55 pm ---If you want to help, grab a night build and report any problems that affect your workflow, otherwise just wait for the next release.
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That's directly throwing the responsibility to me (and any users). "If you don't do anything, sorry, we can't finish the next release version." Well you know what, I don't need it. I'm using mainly Visual Studio (free version) and it's no wonder why. Even the ancient 2010 version is better than current Code::Blocks.
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