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MSVS 2005 released...
takeshimiya:
Somehow I've looked at the MSVC 2005 interface, and everything is made in .NET forms.
The interface looks ugly (the buttons are bigger than normal, lot's of refresh problems, and slower overall) so the GUI is not like using native widgets and looks ugly.
In fact, C::B using wxWidgets looks a lot more native (and better) than MSVC 2005 which is weird :lol:
I'm thinking M$ is doing that on purpose, so their .NET widgets looks ugly in WinXP but fine in Vista...
280Z28:
--- Quote from: Takeshi Miya on December 13, 2005, 04:52:31 pm ---It would be interesting to know what kind of features a Visual Studio user is really missing now in C::B.
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Attachable build property sheets
Virtual space option ;)
Code refactoring
.NET language support - autocompletion of the .NET Framework
Go to definition in addition to go to declaration for functions
Class diagrams
Monstrously powerful debugger - I haven't used the one in C::B to compare yet
--- Quote from: Takeshi Miya on December 13, 2005, 05:51:01 pm ---Somehow I've looked at the MSVC 2005 interface, and everything is made in .NET forms.
The interface looks ugly (the buttons are bigger than normal, lot's of refresh problems, and slower overall) so the GUI is not like using native widgets and looks ugly.
In fact, C::B using wxWidgets looks a lot more native (and better) than MSVC 2005 which is weird :lol:
I'm thinking M$ is doing that on purpose, so their .NET widgets looks ugly in WinXP but fine in Vista...
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I really like the look and feel of VS 2005. It's not sluggish on a fast computer.
takeshimiya:
--- Quote from: 280Z28 ---Attachable build property sheets
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What is that?
--- Quote from: 280Z28 ---Virtual space option ;)
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You're welcome to DIY :)
--- Quote from: 280Z28 ---Code refactoring
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This feature would be easy to do once we have a good AST build from the code.
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1228838&group_id=126998&atid=707419
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1341566&group_id=126998&atid=707419
--- Quote from: 280Z28 ---.NET language support - autocompletion of the .NET Framework
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I don't want to start flamewars so I'll pass on this. :P
--- Quote from: 280Z28 ---Go to definition in addition to go to declaration for functions
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Yes, very needed feature, I've submited a FR:
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1362947&group_id=126998&atid=707419
--- Quote from: 280Z28 ---Class diagrams
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Again, not difficult to do once we have an AST. But until that... very unlikely.
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1228844&group_id=126998&atid=707419
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1228839&group_id=126998&atid=707419
--- Quote from: 280Z28 ---Monstrously powerful debugger - I haven't used the one in C::B to compare yet
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When you've compared them let us know what you're really missing from it.
--- Quote from: 280Z28 ---I really like the look and feel of VS 2005. It's not sluggish on a fast computer.
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I don't know if my Athlon 64 3000+ isn't fast, but VS 2005 have noticeable delay when doing anything.
Here are screenshoots of the Save As dialog:
MSVC 6: Uses MFC, looks native. Well drawn buttons and combobox.
MSVC 2005: Uses .NET, doesn't look native. Big buttons and combobox, everything ugly.
C::B: Uses wx, looks native, and haves more functionality than MSVC 6. Everything well drawn.
So far, that is an example. The MSVC 2005 configuration dialogs looks even more ugly...
Also note that the MSVC 6 & C::B dialogs are internationalized, whereas the MSVC 2005 is not.
CSharp:
Thats because you isnt using the "standard" windows decorations :)
with standard install of xp/vs2k5 its more like;
Anyway like CodeBlocks :)
takeshimiya:
Anyways, notice the buttons, the icons, the sidebar, the language (not translated).
They really know how to make non-native things for their own OS.
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