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Offline thomas.gilray

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3 simple thoughts
« on: November 29, 2006, 05:36:07 am »
I have been using RC2 for probably about a year now and really like code blocks. I just updated to a nightly build from late october and had a few thoughts on the changes and lack of them, 3 commends and a suggestion to be precise:

First, I would like to say that in RC2, the autofillin box that suggests methods and types to fill in never really worked for me. It was slow to come up, almost always only comming up once the entire method name had already been typed and usually not at all. When it would, it sometimes came up with incorrect suggestions. The newest version comes up immidiatly after typing a couple characters and provides relevant possibilities which are easy to enter or ignore. Nice work making this feature perfect!

Second, overall im not a big fan of eclipse but one thing i think it does a great job with is folding. A folded function becomes just the signature with a small [...] box and if you hold your cursor over the box a hint pops up to display the first 4-5 lines of the function. In code::blocks the folding option is IMO more annoying then helpful. I was hoping there would be some improvement in CB's folding but i dont see any improvement. Only a "{" and a long "------------" is displayed. When all my functions are folded the constant horizontal lines make it more difficult to read, and if im not mistaken the primary purpose of folding is to make it easier for a coder to see a high level view of a large file without as much panning.

Third, Just a small comment. The old tabs at the top were easier to see while the new tabs look great when active, but the tabs in the background are only separated with a "|" and are written in a gray that blends in with the background too much.

Lastly, I have a suggestion. I personally keep lots of tabs up most times and the "< >" tab scrolling buttons are difficult to use because i would like to be able to see all my tabs at once. What about an option to have the tabs stack on top of eachother. Similar to how it is done in windows' options dialogs when there are too many tabs to fit. A new row of tabs could just be created below the first.

I was just thinking about what could make C::B a better IDE and since i have an account on the forums i thought i would post my thoughts. Dispite the really minor "problems" above, IMO CodeBlocks is really the best IDE i've ever used!

Great work.

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Re: 3 simple thoughts
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2006, 07:15:19 am »
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Only a "{" and a long "------------" is displayed.

Yeah, I have to admit, I am using the source code formatter, that works brilliantly, but the "{" when the code is folded is kind of a pain. Shouldn't the source code formatter be linked with the code folding that when you write:
Code: [Select]
void procedure{
}
It will fold it that way and when you write
Code: [Select]
void procedure
{

}
It will fold it a different way?

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Re: 3 simple thoughts
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2006, 07:23:49 am »
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Lastly, I have a suggestion. I personally keep lots of tabs up most times and the "< >" tab scrolling buttons are difficult to use because i would like to be able to see all my tabs at once. What about an option to have the tabs stack on top of eachother. Similar to how it is done in windows' options dialogs when there are too many tabs to fit. A new row of tabs could just be created below the first.

ctrl-tab

Offline thomas.gilray

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Re: 3 simple thoughts
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2006, 07:39:41 am »
Yeah,

Now that you mention it, the folding was probably meant for

Code: [Select]
function(){
}

instead of

Code: [Select]
function()
{
}

in which case it works great, but it should detect this.

My bigest concern was actually the horizontal bar though, wherever it is. Wouldn't a soft small tan colored rectangle be better?

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ctrl-tab

Yeah, thats cool. Havent been using that. My concern was more that i couldn't see all the files on one screen, but its really not a big deal. I was just nitpicking there...  :)

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Re: 3 simple thoughts
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2006, 08:50:35 am »
Sorry coming in late in this thread, but I would like to second on the comment that the (text on the) incative tabs is more or less invisible. Is it technically possible to adjust this?
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Re: 3 simple thoughts
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2006, 09:04:08 am »
Sorry coming in late in this thread, but I would like to second on the comment that the (text on the) incative tabs is more or less invisible. Is it technically possible to adjust this?

"Settings->Environment->Notebooks appearence"

Keep in mind though that the colours used are provided by the OS theme, they are not hardcoded.
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Re: 3 simple thoughts
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2006, 09:34:50 am »
Sorry coming in late in this thread, but I would like to second on the comment that the (text on the) incative tabs is more or less invisible. Is it technically possible to adjust this?

"Settings->Environment->Notebooks appearence"

Keep in mind though that the colours used are provided by the OS theme, they are not hardcoded.
I had to adjust my windows theme to see them. Could't you provide some kind of ability to NOT use OS colours when you don't want to? Seems to me that now _some_ of the colours are provided by the OS and some are not. I don't have this visibility problem in any other application anyway.

Btw, is it possible to remove the relative path from tabs? I have my headers & sources in separate directories, so they take quite alot of useless space.
For examble, my tabs show now:
src\main.cpp | include\main.h
When it could just show the filename.

Other thing I've noticed about tabs is that sometimes there IS space for them all to be shown in one row, but it won't be updated untill I manually click the arrows.

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Re: 3 simple thoughts
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2006, 10:36:16 am »
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Btw, is it possible to remove the relative path from tabs? I have my headers & sources in separate directories, so they take quite alot of useless space.
For examble, my tabs show now:
src\main.cpp | include\main.h
When it could just show the filename.

Go to "Settings->Editor" and change the last option in "General settings". Why can't you just check the available options first?

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Other thing I've noticed about tabs is that sometimes there IS space for them all to be shown in one row, but it won't be updated untill I manually click the arrows.

Known bug of wxFNB, hopefully eran will fix it in the next release.
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Re: 3 simple thoughts
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2006, 10:39:45 am »
Where is the development subject as specified in C::B DEVELOPMENT STRICTLY ??

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Re: 3 simple thoughts
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2006, 10:54:16 am »
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Btw, is it possible to remove the relative path from tabs? I have my headers & sources in separate directories, so they take quite alot of useless space.
For examble, my tabs show now:
src\main.cpp | include\main.h
When it could just show the filename.

Go to "Settings->Editor" and change the last option in "General settings". Why can't you just check the available options first?
Because I've been struggling with this for months, and I trust too much my in my ability in remembering all the options the first few times I browse through them. My bad, I just assumed it isn't there, because I hadn't found it.

Where is the development subject as specified in C::B DEVELOPMENT STRICTLY ??
Because there's no board for feature-discussions, they tend to end up on all of them.
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Re: 3 simple thoughts
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2006, 01:35:10 pm »
What about an option to have the tabs stack on top of eachother. Similar to how it is done in windows' options dialogs when there are too many tabs to fit. A new row of tabs could just be created below the first.
Wow, i never thought about this one. What about it?

About the editor features, C::B is using scintilla, you should post these feature request to scintilla's dev, since i don't think C::B devs will make any major change to the scintilla's source code to achieve what you've said...

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Re: 3 simple thoughts
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2006, 01:40:28 pm »
What about an option to have the tabs stack on top of eachother. Similar to how it is done in windows' options dialogs when there are too many tabs to fit. A new row of tabs could just be created below the first.
Wow, i never thought about this one. What about it?

This is how it used to be at older times. wxFNB doesn't support this (and I 'm glad it doesn't too).
Anyway, enable smart-tabbing in "Settings->Environment->Notebooks appearence". This displays a list of all the open files (by pressing Alt-Tab) and then you can click on a file (or release Alt). It also rotates between open files based on the order you visited them...
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Re: 3 simple thoughts
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2006, 03:08:44 pm »
Anyway, enable smart-tabbing in "Settings->Environment->Notebooks appearence". This displays a list of all the open files (by pressing Alt-Tab) and then you can click on a file (or release Alt). It also rotates between open files based on the order you visited them...

Do you mean "Ctrl-Tab"? On my XP system Alt-Tab always switches between process windows; not CB windows.

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Re: 3 simple thoughts
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2006, 03:47:27 pm »
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Go to "Settings->Editor" and change the last option in "General settings". Why can't you just check the available options first?
I wish I'd known about that too.  Any chance of making it a Tip of the Day?

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Re: 3 simple thoughts
« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2006, 03:51:13 pm »
This is how it used to be at older times. wxFNB doesn't support this (and I 'm glad it doesn't too).
Anyway, enable smart-tabbing in "Settings->Environment->Notebooks appearence". This displays a list of all the open files ...

wxFNB does support a drop-down list of tabs as a replacement for the navigation arrows. How difficult would it be to make that an option?