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Offline takeshi miya

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Re: The 16 May 2006 build is out.
« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2006, 09:26:14 pm »
To Takeshi Miya:
I think you totally got the wrong idea from my reply, but yes, I have the responsibility to explain. I was really not want to offend anyone here, coz we are all the 'fans' of C::B, and we have the same expectation even the same 'language' on it. Definitely, I am pretty sure that I know much much more than you about China. let us say to be a programmer in China, and it is a Chinese company, do you know what is the first obligatory requirement? Yes, one must have the strong ability to read the English documentations. Just like our project about the AOP in JBoss, except English I could not find any more useful information on it. I'd like to see you said that 'if China will...', yes, I believe so. Also I will give my contribution for that. Even so, all of us know what could be changed and what could not be, especially in IT field. By the way, the reason explained by thomas is what I exactly want to express too.

At last, I want to tell you, the information you gave for the Chinese mandaring speaker is absolutely wrong. I think you do not know much about China (please do not angry, I do not wanna offend you again, hehe). It is not suitable to talk about it much here. If you really want to know much about that, do not feel hesitating to ask me or riverbird.

Alright, stop here. Let us do what we need to do, stop debating on some boring and useless things. And I have to apologize again for my previous response.

It's all right now that you've explained yourself; with your previous message I got offended and other people on this forum too, that was what transmitted your message. But it's ok. In the future if you feel in a bad mood and want to tell something personal to anyone, please use PMs, to keep it private.

PD: About the Chinese language, I wanted to say "all the Chinese 'dialects'", not Mandarin. :P

Now that the situation was cleared, I hope riverbird or anyone else interested in the Chinese localization can use the Heromyth work (he is working hard on it). :D

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Re: The 16 May 2006 build is out.
« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2006, 04:09:20 am »
Looks nice, but how do I install this? The Wiki only lists directions for creating a new release of a nightly build, not for installing it. And the zip file is way too sparse to be a complete build.

Not to mention if I just try copying the exe files and dll files on top of an RC2 installation it fails _really_ badly!

BTW: the web page for installing RC2 says it is unicode, but it is using the ANSI dll for wxWidgets. What is up with that?

Finally, I realize that the older documentation does describe the nightly build as 'bleeding edge' (and similar language) implying that it is only for people actively working on C::B itself. But I have seen too many posts recommending using the nightly build in place of RC2, so please do not consider nightly builds as being just for developers: please give instructions that mere mortal _users_ can follow;)

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Re: The 16 May 2006 build is out.
« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2006, 04:41:20 am »
The word "racism" is too severe,but I suggest you improve your moral character. That is important!
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Administrator edit: http://forums.codeblocks.org/index.php?topic=3123.msg24795#msg24795
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Re: The 16 May 2006 build is out.
« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2006, 10:50:45 am »
Looks nice, but how do I install this? The Wiki only lists directions for creating a new release of a nightly build, not for installing it. And the zip file is way too sparse to be a complete build.

Search in the forum about how to install a nightly build. It is been discussed some times already.

Not to mention if I just try copying the exe files and dll files on top of an RC2 installation it fails _really_ badly!

Yes, this has been discussed even more times :).

Finally, I realize that the older documentation does describe the nightly build as 'bleeding edge' (and similar language) implying that it is only for people actively working on C::B itself. But I have seen too many posts recommending using the nightly build in place of RC2, so please do not consider nightly builds as being just for developers: please give instructions that mere mortal _users_ can follow;)

RC2 is old. Nightly builds are stable and more features rich.

Best wishes,
Michael

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Re: The 16 May 2006 build is out.
« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2006, 01:22:44 pm »
The word "racism" is too severe,but I suggest you improve your moral character. That is important!
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The forum's official language is English. Never, ever, post in any other language. If the forum administrators can not understand the language used in posts, then anyone could write anything he wanted and we wouldn't be able to tell if it's about [censored], child abuse, arms dealing or even just spam.

This is the last time this is mentioned (again).
If this happens again, we will start deleting posts and accounts if this behaviour persists.

The forum's owners are liable for its content. Period.
« Last Edit: May 18, 2006, 06:08:51 pm by mandrav »
Be patient!
This bug will be fixed soon...

Offline dejan

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Re: The 16 May 2006 build is out.
« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2006, 03:52:07 pm »
With all due respect, sir, if you want something to be done ASAP in an open-source project, than you should do it yourself (TM) and ofcourse, send PATCH to the core developer team. If you do not know how to send them patch, than you should post a call for help here.
I'm waiting for your chinese version for a long long time.

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Re: The 16 May 2006 build is out.
« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2006, 06:01:03 am »
Well, Michael, I believe you when you say it has been "discussed many times". But that is a pretty good hint that it is time to put the answer in the FAQ or the Wiki. Surely it can't be that hard to do it. And your comment that RC2 is "prety old" is also a pretty good hint that the comment that the nightly builds are for developers only should be removed.

BTW: I already _did_ try searching the Forum. In fact, when I typed the letter 'i', I saw my old search pop up, namely, "install nightly builds". And when I ran that search again, I came up with this post, and one other, which also did not have the answer. Or are you claiming that if I had typed "how to install nightly builds", that that search would have come up with better results? This forum's search engine would be a very unusual one if that were so.

So no, I did as you suggest, and still came up with nothing. That is why I ask in the forum. It is only because of a lack of familiarity with the forum software that the post appeared where it did in the thread, which is obviously not the best place.

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Re: The 16 May 2006 build is out.
« Reply #22 on: May 19, 2006, 07:36:37 am »
I'm waiting for your chinese version for a long long time.if your chinese version have been finished,I will tell a lot of my friend for this IDE.and introducer this software for a lot of of chinese friend.
what are you doing here? do you think now is the time for talking about the various language versions? why you can not use the E version? do not ask that stupid question any more. let me tell you, every Chinese programmer could use any kind of English version's IDE as well. If you can not, go back home to study English. Because as you see, the programming language itself is based on English, and lots of the newest documentations are written in English. Moreover, I believe that all the Chinese Uni students at least should pass the English level 4 of their domestic English test system. Thus, find the problem from yourself, improve you English skills and be a good programmer. At last, I think there also will be a Chinese version in the future, but not now. I just tired to look at your messages again and again, so...pardon me.
Why acercpp is a guest?
caitiff ?!

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Re: The 16 May 2006 build is out.
« Reply #23 on: May 19, 2006, 12:34:43 pm »
Well, Michael, I believe you when you say it has been "discussed many times". But that is a pretty good hint that it is time to put the answer in the FAQ or the Wiki. Surely it can't be that hard to do it. And your comment that RC2 is "prety old" is also a pretty good hint that the comment that the nightly builds are for developers only should be removed.

BTW: I already _did_ try searching the Forum. In fact, when I typed the letter 'i', I saw my old search pop up, namely, "install nightly builds". And when I ran that search again, I came up with this post, and one other, which also did not have the answer. Or are you claiming that if I had typed "how to install nightly builds", that that search would have come up with better results? This forum's search engine would be a very unusual one if that were so.

So no, I did as you suggest, and still came up with nothing. That is why I ask in the forum. It is only because of a lack of familiarity with the forum software that the post appeared where it did in the thread, which is obviously not the best place.


Hello,

Strange :?. I run a global search with "Install nightly build" and find out 7 pages of results.

Best wishes,
Michael

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Re: The 16 May 2006 build is out.
« Reply #24 on: May 27, 2006, 07:20:37 am »
Hello, Michael-

Thanks for sticking with this. If you get 7 pages of results, perhaps the real problem is my unfamiliarity with the UI for this forum. I typed "install nightly builds" in the input field just to the left of the button labeled 'search' that appeared as I was viewing my previous post. Perhaps that does not make the search global? If so, then how _do_ you make it global? For I just did it again, and once more, came up with one page of results, all from this thread.

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Re: The 16 May 2006 build is out.
« Reply #25 on: May 27, 2006, 09:32:13 am »
maybe the search field "from who, or what is it called" was just your name, besure it is notfilled in or just "*", or maybe you're search was time limited ??

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Re: The 16 May 2006 build is out.
« Reply #26 on: May 27, 2006, 12:02:55 pm »
maybe the search field "from who, or what is it called" was just your name, besure it is notfilled in or just "*", or maybe you're search was time limited ??

Good guess, killerbot, but no. Please re-read my previous post and notice that when one uses that particular input field, there _are_ no options to modify "from who, or what is it called". It is only when one clickes the word 'SEARCH' on the blue bar that one sees such options (I don't remember exactly what it is called there either).

Anyway, once I got past that hurdle and did the search "install nightly builds windows" starting from the blue  bar instead of from the button 'Search', I saw the 7 pages of results, most of which were build announcements, therefore entirely useless (for my purpose). After widening the list of forums searched, and spending WAY too much time doing the "next page" operation, I found an old post talking about the need to:

1 - remove RC2
2 - Install MingW C++ first (no version specified, so I took the latest fm www.mingw.org)
3 - Unzip the nightly build into the desired target directory for C::B
4 - copy the wxWidgets DLL into the directory of 3
5 - Run C::B, and it will supposedly find MingW C++

This _almost_ worked. But it could not find mingwm10.dll. I had to find a copy (there were two on my system -- I have no idea where they came from or what the difference is) and put it into the directory of 3 for C::B to find it. Now I can launch C::B and build&run my old C::B projects. Progress!

So yes, it was discussed before, but it was NOT easy to find the discussion, and when I did find it, the procedure described did NOT work as advertised. But now I have something that at least sort of works. Now if only I could copy the configuration I had to the new installation...



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Re: The 16 May 2006 build is out.
« Reply #27 on: May 27, 2006, 03:38:46 pm »
boy, you searched the hell out of the forum ;-)

Glad to hear it finally worked, you know I will create a sticky post in the nightly builds section, explaining all the needed actions. I think you will like this idea, though for your purposes it comes a bit too late.

RC2 stored it's settings in the registry, the current nightlies and upcoming RC3 and V1 don't use the registry anymore to store CB settings, it's a xml file stored in the user's profile directory. No conversion, but hopefully this was the last breaking change for settings (well compiler settings change is coming up ..).
Just hold up your head, sweat through this little problem and enjoy the soooooo much better nightlies and wave bye bye to RC2 ;-)

Cheers,
Lieven

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Re: The 16 May 2006 build is out.
« Reply #28 on: May 28, 2006, 03:07:28 pm »
Thanks for sticking with this. If you get 7 pages of results, perhaps the real problem is my unfamiliarity with the UI for this forum. I typed "install nightly builds" in the input field just to the left of the button labeled 'search' that appeared as I was viewing my previous post. Perhaps that does not make the search global? If so, then how _do_ you make it global? For I just did it again, and once more, came up with one page of results, all from this thread.

Hello,

To make a global search, you have to clik on the Code::Block link (in the folder hierarchy, under the box Search). Then you can either do a simple search or an advanced one. The scope of the search will be the entire C::B forum.

Best wishes,
Michael