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Special Forums/Theads for patches/plugins?
« on: December 15, 2005, 08:35:53 am »
Dear all,

It happens to me often that by accident I dicover quite some interesting plugins and patches within the forum. Unfortunately they get lost within a long (old) forum (thread) or the thread is simply messed up / forgotten over the time. I don't see a chance to find them by a search criteria for several reasons. May I propose the following therefore:

How about adding two new forums to the developer forum: "Patches" and "Plugins". There only the code (with a description) ist allowed to be posted in a single message for each patch/plugin. Any updates for these patches/plugins are going into the same message then. Any comments/feature request would be going to the other forums as done by now. A sticky note should inform posters about that. (Maybe the possibility to delete other messages is a good idea, too.)

I also see a difference of the patches posted here to the onces posted on Sourceforge: There are patches that I guess will never make it in HEAD because they are too specific but still interesting for readers that have this specific problem.

Any comments/suggestions are welcome.

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Re: Special Forums/Theads for patches/plugins?
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2005, 08:59:51 am »
I also think we should have a forum just for plugins. The forum is a place for discussion though, so people should be able to give feedback in the threads in there. The Wiki is the perfect place for a list of links and brief descriptions for each of the plugins without having to wade through forum discussions.

If they make a change, may I suggest another one? Guests are allowed to post here, but you have to register at sourceforge to post there. I think we should have a bug reports forum and feature request forum so if someone wants to make a quick request without having to go through the trouble of registering (since they might not plan on returning later), then they have a place to do so.
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Re: Special Forums/Theads for patches/plugins?
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2005, 09:13:19 am »
Maybe the announcement forum can already do the job for the 'releasing' of plug-ins. And the development forum can be used to discuss that perticular plug-in ...


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Re: Special Forums/Theads for patches/plugins?
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2005, 09:13:39 am »
I also think we should have a forum just for plugins.
These forums exists - even several (RAD...). But the problem is that there are so many posts about feature requestst, bugs, HowTo's, comments, suggestions etc. in a lot of messages. The one that just would like to know about the plugins and download them is lost.

I like the idea with the WiKi! Hence the question is: Is everyone allowed to upload it's archives (with the plugin sources / patches) then?

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Re: Special Forums/Theads for patches/plugins?
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2005, 09:16:32 am »
I also think we should have a forum just for plugins.
These forums exists - even several (RAD...). But the problem is that there are so many posts about feature requestst, bugs, HowTo's, comments, suggestions etc. in a lot of messages. The one that just would like to know about the plugins and download them is lost.

I like the idea with the WiKi! Hence the question is: Is everyone allowed to upload it's archives (with the plugin sources / patches) then?

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Well, all registered users are definitely allowed to make links on the Wiki to forum topics discussing their plugin's release.
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Re: Special Forums/Theads for patches/plugins?
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2005, 09:20:22 am »
Maybe the announcement forum can already do the job for the 'releasing' of plug-ins.
Again: Look at the anouncements forum There are (of course) already a lot of messages that have nothing to do with a patch/plugin. The number of messages would raise a lot if you use this forum for plugin announcements as well. I'm afraid users will then use this forum also for requests of any kind about a specific plugin/patch. So I assume that the announcement forum in it's original intention (announce C::B "core"/"web" related releases) would become messed up.

May I again point to the WiKi as "280Z28" suggested... This seems to be a suitable place for the collection of plugins/patches with a link to the plugin forums for dicussion. The only problem: The plugin/patch dev will not be automatically be informed on a new request and the user cannot setup a notification about new releases as it would be possible within the forum.

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Re: Special Forums/Theads for patches/plugins?
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2005, 09:23:16 am »
Well, all registered users are definitely allowed to make links on the Wiki to forum topics discussing their plugin's release.
Hey, you posted while I was writing! :lol:

Alright: Sounds good to me. To sum up: A plugin/patch dev can post it's new release (and only the new release and related information) on the WiKi including a link to a thread he started int he plugin forum for discussion. That way all plugins/patches are nicely collected in the WiKi and the dscussion is outsourced to the forum where everybody can use the notifiction feature as desired.

Looks like a good proposal to me. How about the admins?

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Re: Special Forums/Theads for patches/plugins?
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2005, 09:24:10 am »
Maybe the announcement forum can already do the job for the 'releasing' of plug-ins.
Again: Look at the anouncements forum There are (of course) already a lot of messages that have nothing to do with a patch/plugin. The number of messages would raise a lot if you use this forum for plugin announcements as well. I'm afraid users will then use this forum also for requests of any kind about a specific plugin/patch. So I assume that the announcement forum in it's original intention (announce C::B "core"/"web" related releases) would become messed up.

May I again point to the WiKi as "280Z28" suggested... This seems to be a suitable place for the collection of plugins/patches with a link to the plugin forums for dicussion. The only problem: The plugin/patch dev will not be automatically be informed on a new request and the user cannot setup a notification about new releases as it would be possible within the forum.

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The forum would be used for release+feedback. Users subscribed to the forum will get information about new threads created there. The Wiki would be used as a reference for people when they a) know exactly what plugin they want and just need the link to download it or b) just want a full list of available plugins in summarized format without having to dig through the forum. The Wiki+forum together then accomplishes all the tasks.

Edit: hey you posted while I posted. I think we're onto something since we just posted the same thing like 3 times.  :shock:

Edit 2: And the forum is already available: http://forums.codeblocks.org/index.php?board=14.0
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Re: Special Forums/Theads for patches/plugins?
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2005, 09:25:54 am »
Edit: hey you posted while I posted. I think we're onto something since we just posted the same thing like 3 times.  :shock:
Right. Maybe one of us should simply shut up! :lol:

However: I see that we share the same idea. So hopefully the others will to the same.

Morten.

Edit: I would like to add that if the decision is positive I would volunteer to setup the pages on the WiKi accordingly (including a HowTo...) using my own plugins/patches as an example.
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Re: Special Forums/Theads for patches/plugins?
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2005, 04:44:09 pm »
I'm all for this idea, and there's nothing like a
good "posting" fight!! :-}

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Re: Special Forums/Theads for patches/plugins?
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2005, 04:48:55 pm »
By the way, you'd have to anchor the wiki page in the
announcements page. It was a surprise finding the
wiki the first time.

And navigating the wiki is strange. I thought I'd gone
to every page before asking my newbie questions and
it turned out there was a page on wiki I never saw.
It needs a better page of contents.

Just my 2cents

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Re: Special Forums/Theads for patches/plugins?
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2005, 05:13:12 pm »
I'm all for this idea, [...]
...so we are 4 people then by now. :D
I'm still waiting for a "GO" from one of the admins. Then I'll start setting it up.

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Re: Special Forums/Theads for patches/plugins?
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2005, 05:19:58 pm »
...so we are 4 people then by now. :D
5 people :D.
I find also this as a very good idea.

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Re: Special Forums/Theads for patches/plugins?
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2005, 05:22:11 pm »
a) That's what the Wiki is for, go ahead
b) There's general approval
c) An admin mentioned a similar idea in a thread yesterday :o
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[DONE] Re: Special Forums/Theads for patches/plugins?
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2005, 06:53:55 pm »
Alright, I've setup a webpage accordingly for announcements. I hope that everyboy will like it and (of course!) post as much content as availabel... :lol:
See: http://wiki.codeblocks.org/index.php?title=Main_Page under "Table of Contents" - "Announcement for plugins/patches".

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Re: Special Forums/Theads for patches/plugins?
« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2005, 12:09:44 am »
Morton,

Thanks for all that work. I'll post cbDragScroll as soon as I
unglue myself from another keybinder bug.

I wonder if a RC2 version of cbKeyBinder should go there also.
Or should it be just left for HEAD/RC3?

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Re: Special Forums/Theads for patches/plugins?
« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2005, 12:34:18 am »
I have an unofficial patch that changes the Ctrl+MouseWheel action from zoom in/zoom out to pageup/pagedn.

ConTEXT does it that way so I'm used to it, plus I scroll the page a billion times more than I change the font size. ;)

It's a text editor... I just set it to 9px Courier New and never need it to change, so I made use of the mousewheel for something I do do.

If anyone is interested, I'll tell you what to do but you're on your own to recompile it with the patch.


Haha I said do do.  :P
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Re: Special Forums/Theads for patches/plugins?
« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2005, 08:17:18 am »
I wonder if a RC2 version of cbKeyBinder should go there also.
Or should it be just left for HEAD/RC3?
I would not put it in the WiKi because we all know that it's about to be integrated in RC3 (and it is already in SVN). So it wouldn't last very long... :P

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Re: Special Forums/Theads for patches/plugins?
« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2005, 05:00:33 pm »
I have an unofficial patch that changes the Ctrl+MouseWheel action from zoom in/zoom out to pageup/pagedn.

I'd like to see that patch 280z. If you're willing. I could
integrate mouse additions that people like into one plugin
with a configuration dialog to pick the mouse actions/
set sensitivity/direction of scroll/ right/middle/left button etc etc.

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Re: Special Forums/Theads for patches/plugins?
« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2005, 01:47:21 am »
@ Morton

In the wiki you have a note stating the following:
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Please note: Edit this template and copy/paste the content into your plugin site in the WiKi

but I can't find anywhere where it states how to create
a wiki page to paste the template into. How do I create
a new page?

I need a little help...

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Re: Special Forums/Theads for patches/plugins?
« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2005, 02:10:20 am »
I can't find anywhere where it states how to create a wiki page to paste the template into. How do I create a new page?

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Re: Special Forums/Theads for patches/plugins?
« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2005, 11:50:48 am »
How do I create a new page?
I've seen that you did this by now. If you still require help, ask again. I have only removed the spaces in front of each line. They change the layout to a block-text. I hope you agree with that. Looks good anyway! I think the WiKi section has become very nice. :P

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Re: Special Forums/Theads for patches/plugins?
« Reply #22 on: December 18, 2005, 03:24:12 pm »
thanks for the help.

@ Morton

From the wiki instructions:
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The best way may be to copy the section from the template plugin/patch/lexer/template and update it with your information. This will ensure consistency in the best way!

Could you add to the above something like...
"First, create a new link below, click on the link, then paste
the template to the new page.

I'm sure I'm gonna forget how to do this.

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Re: Special Forums/Theads for patches/plugins?
« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2005, 04:01:33 pm »
I had forgot it too, but I guess from now on I will remember it .... I hope.

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Re: Special Forums/Theads for patches/plugins?
« Reply #24 on: December 18, 2005, 05:27:25 pm »
Could you add to the above something like...
"First, create a new link below, click on the link, then paste the template to the new page.
Done. I've created a new HowTo artice in the WiKi accordingly. You can access it from the main page of the announcement section or simply click here: http://wiki.codeblocks.org/index.php?title=How_to_add_another_announcement.

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Re: Special Forums/Theads for patches/plugins?
« Reply #25 on: December 19, 2005, 12:30:26 am »
Thanks Morton,

Thats gonna really save some (read my) bacon in the future.

pecan