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Re: Teletype font tooooooo small
« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2005, 07:28:12 pm »
When you go to reply to a post, there is a copy of the existing posts below the reply box that you can reference. In Firefox 1.5, text that is not quoted is tiny in those replies.

Notice that thomas' quote is fine, but the other text is tiny.

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Re: Teletype font tooooooo small
« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2005, 07:33:18 pm »
:'( bwaaa... can you people agree on what needs to be changed?


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Re: Teletype font tooooooo small
« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2005, 07:40:39 pm »
:'( bwaaa... can you people agree on what needs to be changed?

The size of the text inside the tt tags...please... :).

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Re: Teletype font tooooooo small
« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2005, 07:42:47 pm »
:'( bwaaa... can you people agree on what needs to be changed?

only teletyped text within  [ t t ]    teletype   [ / t t ]  is too small

do you have a IE on your computer ????
then you could try it yourself maybe !

thanks a lot

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Re: Teletype font tooooooo small
« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2005, 07:58:43 pm »
Notice that thomas' quote is fine, but the other text is tiny.
No, that is deliberate. These posts are meant to be that small.

The issue is about [ tt ] teletype text [ /tt ] which looks about like this on Internet Exploder.
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Re: Teletype font tooooooo small
« Reply #20 on: December 14, 2005, 08:23:03 pm »
I see no difference between FF and IE (see pic)

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Re: Teletype font tooooooo small
« Reply #21 on: December 14, 2005, 08:26:33 pm »
That is because I specified size=7pt for this particular text to simulate what it looks like using IE...

Compare this!

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Re: Teletype font tooooooo small
« Reply #22 on: December 14, 2005, 08:31:15 pm »
Ouch. I see your point now. Lemme see what I can do.

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Re: Teletype font tooooooo small
« Reply #23 on: December 14, 2005, 08:46:56 pm »
You could just copy the code from above ;)
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Re: Teletype font tooooooo small
« Reply #24 on: December 14, 2005, 10:37:01 pm »
changing the CSS is easy. The templates, however...

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Re: Teletype font tooooooo small
« Reply #25 on: December 14, 2005, 10:43:08 pm »
Find in files... :)

Search for </head>
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Re: Teletype font tooooooo small
« Reply #26 on: December 15, 2005, 12:06:08 am »
This should just be a CSS problem :think:
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Re: Teletype font tooooooo small
« Reply #27 on: December 15, 2005, 12:12:48 am »
It is not just a CSS problem.

Internet Exploder is displaying some of the code badly. All other browsers do not have that problem. So unless you want to have the forum display nicely in IE and show ill-formatted in any other browser, you have to provide different style information to different browsers.

You have the following choices:
- conditional comments: these work reliably and are perfectly suitable in this case
- JavaScript: unreliable at best
- UserAgent: unreliable and requires changing the web server's config
- CSS hacks: these are, like their name says, hacks - no alternative
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Re: Teletype font tooooooo small
« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2005, 12:15:39 am »
It is not just a CSS problem.

Internet Exploder is displaying some of the code badly. All other browsers do not have that problem. So unless you want to have the forum display nicely in IE and show ill-formatted in any other browser, you have to provide different style information to different browsers.

You have the following choices:
- conditional comments: these work reliably and are perfectly suitable in this case
- JavaScript: unreliable at best
- UserAgent: unreliable and requires changing the web server's config
- CSS hacks: these are, like their name says, hacks - no alternative

CSS problem as in CSS not designed specifically to compensate for IE's inability to follow rules. Technically that's an IE problem, but when a site doesn't keep that in mind and forgets to make the site look right in the most popular browser, it becomes a problem with their CSS code.

IE makes me like this when I'm trying to make a site:  :x :x
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Re: Teletype font tooooooo small
« Reply #29 on: December 15, 2005, 12:22:03 am »
IE is actually no problem at all if you do not have the requirements to be pixel-precise and to have the exact same look in different browsers.

If you can live with pages looking slightly different (which they will anyway, realistically) then you can make a 100% standards compliant page which is accessible and good looking in every browser. All you need to do is provide either a fallback css or a correction css for IE and conditional comments are a really gorgeous invention for that purpose. These are certainly the best thing Microsoft ever invented.

No hacks needed, no scripts, nothing.
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