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Re: BerlisOS is Closing!
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2011, 12:29:32 pm »
No support for svn, I guess :)
Reading with svn (also TortoiseSVN) should work: https://github.com/blog/626-announcing-svn-support , if it is really not an april's fool.
I did not test it.

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Re: BerlisOS is Closing!
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2011, 12:33:24 pm »
OK, I'll correct myself --> there is no commit-svn-support  8)
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Re: BerlisOS is Closing!
« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2011, 03:41:09 am »
Do c::b developers have a final decision where to host the c::b source code in the feature?
Not only the source code, but also the files/feature request/bug report should be moved to the new host.
If some piece of memory should be reused, turn them to variables (or const variables).
If some piece of operations should be reused, turn them to functions.
If they happened together, then turn them to classes.

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Re: BerlisOS is Closing!
« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2011, 08:53:27 am »
Not only the source code, but also the files/feature request/bug report should be moved to the new host.
Do you know how? We can export them, but then what?
I guess all will be lost and we will start in a clean bug-tracker...
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Re: BerlisOS is Closing!
« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2011, 04:02:49 am »
I prefer sourceforge.
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Re: BerlisOS is Closing!
« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2011, 10:30:06 am »
I prefer sourceforge.

Sourceforge is a nice forge, but, as googlecode, it is close to some countries.

There had been some remarks about their politic, too (I don't exactly remember what, and I think that was probably rumors), and, imho, their interface have lose many things that made me fan of it. It is now just one forge, for me.

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Re: BerlisOS is Closing!
« Reply #21 on: October 07, 2011, 02:01:12 pm »
but, as googlecode, it is close to some countries
Which is interesting, since this is against par. 5 of the DFSG, yet Debian includes projects that host their source on Sourceforge and Google. Honi soit qui mal y pense...  8)
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Re: BerlisOS is Closing!
« Reply #22 on: October 07, 2011, 02:05:01 pm »
but, as googlecode, it is close to some countries
Which is interesting, since this is against par. 5 of the DFSG, yet Debian includes projects that host their source on Sourceforge and Google. Honi soit qui mal y pense...  8)
But the sources of all debian packages are available on debians servers also, and as far as I know debian does not block some countries/regions.

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Re: BerlisOS is Closing!
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2011, 12:16:30 am »
Isn't launchpad an option? It's the only one with integrated translation system. Yes, it uses bazaar, but less popular doesn't automatically mean bad.

Interesting article: http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/migration/en/why-switch-to-bazaar.html
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Re: BerlisOS is Closing!
« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2011, 12:45:12 am »
From the article on Wikipedia, Launchpad is not a host like sf/berlios, but only meant for OS/distro integrators. It is not hosting the projects just replicating them.
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Re: BerlisOS is Closing!
« Reply #25 on: October 13, 2011, 12:48:52 am »
I read whole wikipedia article and can't confirm this. To make a little quote:

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Other prominent projects using Launchpad for various aspects of managing their development include:
Drizzle
GNOME Do
Inkscape (bug tracking, code hosting)[6][7]
Linux Mint (bug tracking, blueprints, and translations)[8][9]
MySQL (code hosting)[10]
Pinta (bug tracking and translations)
Upstart
Zope 3 (bug tracking)[11]


Mmm this little article @ launchpad blog might also be interesting: http://blog.launchpad.net/general/welcome-to-berlios-projects
Also don't miss the tour: https://launchpad.net/+tour/index
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Re: BerlisOS is Closing!
« Reply #26 on: October 13, 2011, 01:07:41 am »
See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open_source_software_hosting_facilities#Available_version_control_systems.2C_more_features

No, svn-commit support, so it doesn't even qualify.
Nor it supports git, why would we want to choose bazaar, because they say it rocks?
If we switch to DVCS it will be 1. git or 2. mercurial.
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Re: BerlisOS is Closing!
« Reply #27 on: October 13, 2011, 01:13:55 am »
How does it support your "Launchpad is not a host like sf/berlios" thing?
Yeah I told since beginning that it's bazaar stuff. But you didn't mention
single word why it's any worse than mercurial or git... did ya?

Sometimes alternatives provide much better quality and results than the
mainstream stuff and eventually replace older stuff in mainstream, the
same as Code::Blocks is a great IDE and a great alternative to many
other, usually commercial IDEs and has potential to become mainstream.

As far as I know, Code::Blocks uses Ubuntu version numbering scheme,
why wouldn't it use its revision control system. :lol:

Also wxWidgets use GetText for translations so launchpad is the logical
place for any wxWidgets-based application translations.

Also migrating from BerliOS is as simple as few mouse clicks as you can see.

Not to mention how Code::Blocks development could be speeded up with
all the tools launchpad provides for teams. I don't think MySQL team would
use it if it would'nt satisfy all their needs.

Well, completly different possibility might be to host the whole thing on your own?
Personally I wouldn't like to see Code::Blocks on google code, it's a primitive tool
suitable only for single developer, with poor interface and having a Big Brother
always watching you from behind, breathing slowly on your neck.
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Re: BerlisOS is Closing!
« Reply #28 on: October 13, 2011, 01:42:58 am »
How does it support your "Launchpad is not a host like sf/berlios" thing?
Yeah I told since beginning that it's bazaar stuff. But you didn't mention
single word why it's any worse than mercurial or git... did ya?
It is not popular enough and there is no single person in the C::B team promoting it! We have one for Git.


As far as I know, Code::Blocks uses Ubuntu version numbering scheme,
why wouldn't it use its revision control system. :lol:
There is no connection...


Not to mention how Code::Blocks development could be speeded up with
all the tools launchpad provides for teams. I don't think MySQL team would
use it if it would'nt satisfy all their needs.
We are a small team.

Well, completly different possibility might be to host the whole thing on your own?
It is discussed, but no decision taken...

Personally I wouldn't like to see Code::Blocks on google code, it's a primitive tool
suitable only for single developer, with poor interface and having a Big Brother
always watching you from behind, breathing slowly on your neck.
From what I've see it is a simplistic interface, in a google fashion. I doubt it is worse than berlios.

No-svn, nor-git support disqualifies Launchpad, sorry.

p.s. This is my opinion of course.
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Re: BerlisOS is Closing!
« Reply #29 on: October 13, 2011, 01:48:40 am »
Of course I do respect your opinion sir, but I worry others won't reconsider anything I said
even for a single second as you closed everything with a strong hammer. And I really hoped
to see more opinions as I'm deciding for/against launchpad for my personal future projects too.